MODI’S ‘GANGA-JAL DIPLOMACY’ WINS HEARTS BUT UPSETS THE OPPOSITION: Dr CHANDRA

Dr Jagdeesh Chandra, in his insightful commentary on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s recent visit to Mauritius, highlighted the significant strides in strengthening India-Mauritius ties. He said the visit marked a historic moment, with more than eight bilateral deals cementing the bond between the two nations. Dr Chandra further stressed that Modi’s popularity in Mauritius is unprecedented, with his leadership seen as transformative. He also discussed the broader global implications, noting Modi’s pivotal role in promoting peace and diplomacy, particularly through his efforts in mediating the Russia-Ukraine ceasefire. Dr Chandra emphasised Modi’s growing recognition globally, underscoring how his leadership and vision are positioning India as a beacon of stability and progress in a turbulent world. Excerpts...

• The headline of today’s JC Show is “Dil, Dosti, Deal in Mauritius.” What does this mean?
  Dr Jagdeesh Chandra: 5,828 kilometres away from New Delhi, across the seas, building new bridges of heart and friendship, Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Mauritius was truly historic and highly successful. During this visit, hearts met, friendships deepened, and more than eight bilateral deals were signed to enhance the economic and trade relations between India and Mauritius. With a gesture of generosity, Narendra Modi gifted a Parliament building. PM Modi reiterated his commitment to safeguarding Mauritius’ national interest and sovereignty. This visit marked a significant step toward making India the leader of the Global South. It was a milestone in Narendra Modi’s leadership there. His popularity in Mauritius broke all previous records. Seeing thousands of people lining the streets just to catch a glimpse of Modi, I felt as though Modi had arrived as an emperor, in his own country, to check on the welfare of the people. This was the kind of scene there. Additionally, it is worth mentioning that Modi once again connected with his roots embraced friendship, and reaffirmed religious and cultural bonds. In other words, we can say that at the end of the day, two nations came closer, like a hug in their arms.

• Russian President Putin has credited both Trump and Narendra Modi for the ceasefire agreement with Ukraine. How do you see this development?
  This is quite natural and just. Putin knows very well that before Trump entered the scene, all hopes, including those of the Ukrainians, for this ceasefire rested on Narendra Modi. There was hope from Modi, and at one point, both parties had agreed. Discussions were ongoing about whether it would take place in Delhi or Saudi Arabia. Then Trump entered the picture. What Putin said is true. Additionally, Modi’s statement that “the solution to today’s problems does not lie on the battlefield, but at the negotiation table” was validated, it turned out to be true. Today, India is not partial to anyone, but India stands for peace. Putin’s words also express gratitude to Modi, acknowledging his role in this process. Moreover, Putin also thanked Chinese President Xi, Brazilian President Lula, and others. But the key players in this are Trump, Putin, Narendra Modi, and Zelenskyy.

• After receiving international awards, now Modi has been honoured with Mauritius’ highest civilian award. Why is there such a rush in foreign countries to honour Modi?
  You are right that there is a kind of rush to honour him. Modi has now received 21 international awards. Russia has given him one, and the USA, France, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and many others have also honoured him, the list is quite long. Narendra Modi has clearly stated that he humbly accepts this honour, but it is not his honour; it is a recognition of the historic and cultural ties between India and Mauritius. Our ancestors, who toiled and sweated, built, and elevated Mauritius, this honour is for them. This is the fifth award that has been given to a foreign national by the Mauritian government. Modi’s 21st award in total. Indeed, there seems to be a rush in foreign countries to honour him. It is his talent, his aura, and the image of a global leader that inspires these nations. Now, Mauritius, too, has been given this honour, further strengthening the historic relationship between India and Mauritius.

• During Narendra Modi’s visit, the Prime Minister of Mauritius, Navin Ramgoolam, said, “We want more and more people from India to come to Mauritius.” What is the contrast between Mauritius’ citizenship policy and Trump’s?
  There is a stark contrast in the policies of the two countries. One is welcoming with open arms, while the other is saying, “Go back.” Trump is sending people back on planes, whereas Mauritius is encouraging people to come. The fundamental difference is that India holds great respect for Mauritius. The talented Indians contribute significantly to Mauritius’ development. The Prime Minister and President of Mauritius are aware of this fact—Mauritius was built by Indian workers. Hence, the people there feel grateful and say, “Come, you are most welcome.” On the other hand, Trump’s deportation policy creates a different atmosphere. Mauritius’ open policy is like a fresh breeze amidst this. The Mauritian leaders’ statement that “whoever can come, you are most welcome” reflects this welcoming spirit.

• After 10 years, what has changed in India and Mauritius during Modi’s second visit to Mauritius?
  India has changed completely in the last 10 years under Modi’s leadership. You have seen the transformation. As for Mauritius, there hasn’t been as much change. The Prime Minister has served three terms, but not continuously for five years, so there hasn’t been the same level of progress as India has seen. The development has been limited, mainly revolving around sectors like FDI, agriculture, and shipping. There hasn’t been a drastic change in Mauritius. India, however, has undergone a complete transformation and has experienced a renaissance. The country was in a different position 10 years ago and now stands as the fifthlargest economy and is on its way to becoming the third-largest. Narendra Modi’s achievements are too numerous to list. In contrast, Mauritius has not advanced as much due to political instability. The country’s government has not been as consistent, and hence, the progress hasn’t been as remarkable as in India.

• What is the significance of Mauritius for India?
  Mauritius holds great significance for India. First and foremost, it has a strategic location in the central Indian Ocean. Modi wants India to be a leader of the Global South, and Mauritius plays a crucial role in this. Another factor is China’s intentions. China would like Mauritius to not have India’s protective umbrella. Without India’s continuous presence there, China might try to take control of Mauritius. If they talk about Taiwan today, tomorrow they might talk about Mauritius. So, the China factor is something that motivates India to maintain its security and influence over Mauritius. Another important factor is the business partnership and trade relationship between the two countries. Mauritius is also, in many ways, an extension of India. Modi himself has said that Mauritius is a part of our family. 70% of the people there are of Indian descent. From historical, defence, maritime, emotional, and cultural perspectives, Mauritius is crucial to India, and the Indian government acknowledges this.

• What was the importance of Modi’s visit to Mauritius in terms of Indo-Pacific Diplomacy?
  The key policy goal of India was to acquire leadership in the Global South. Another significant objective was to control China’s maritime presence and ensure the free movement of ships and trade in the South China Sea. These agreements were made to strengthen these two essential points. In essence, the philosophy behind this visit was to consolidate India’s position and leadership in the region.

• The Prime Minister mentioned that Mauritius will act as a bridge between India and the Global South. What does this mean?
  Mauritius is strategically located between India and the rest of the Global South. The Prime Minister has said that Mauritius will act as a bridge between the two. This is not just a symbolic statement; it has real implications. Mauritius will play a crucial role in connecting India with other nations of the Global South, and agreements are already in place to strengthen this bridge. The maritime agreements we are seeing will only enhance Mauritius’ responsibility in this role. Mauritius is tasked with bridging the oceans and building friendships between these nations.

• Why is India supporting Mauritius in the Agalega Islands issue? Is there any connection to China, and what is the message of Chagos to the world?
  The Agalega Islands, a small island under Mauritius, are strategically important and located 1,100 kilometres from the country. India and Mauritius have signed a joint agreement to develop a secret military base there, which will soon be operational. The strategic purpose is to monitor China’s activities in the western Indian Ocean, including the movement of ships and submarines. The Chagos issue, in essence, sends a clear message that India stands by the sovereignty of nations. Recently, the UK returned the islands to Mauritius, and India has applauded this move. The message is that nations’ sovereignty should be respected, and expansionist policies by countries like the US, Russia, and China should not be tolerated. Modi has emphasized that India will fully support Mauritius in safeguarding its sovereignty.

• What is the message of Modi’s visit to Mauritius for China? Do you see any qualitative changes in India-China relations recently?
  The message to China is clear—India is concerned about China’s growing maritime presence in the region. Modi connects with smaller countries like Mauritius to keep them on India’s side whenever possible. Regarding India-China relations, there has been some improvement, but it is limited. The border issue is 90% resolved, and only a small portion remains to be sorted out. Indian and Chinese diplomats have had ongoing conversations, and there seems to be dialogue. However, the question remains whether India can trust China, as it is unpredictable and unreliable. While there has been some positive response from China, the issue remains complex. There is talk of opening direct flights for the Mansarovar pilgrimage, but the economic relations between India and China have not been restored fully, and new agreements would be needed. So, the matter remains unresolved, and the situation with China remains sensitive. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.

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